TWIW: Omega vs Zenith Watches; New Watches By Glashütte Original, Parmigiani, Czapek, RGM Watches

Tim Mosso on Instagram: tim_mosso (Our poll for the show)


Tonight on This Week In Watches, Tim Mosso and Josh Thanos discuss the newest luxury watches, a battle between the Omega Constellation Globemaster and the Zenith (El Primero) Captain Winsor, and new watches from Glashutte Original, RGM Watches, Czepek & Cie., Cvstos watches, and Parmigiani Fleurier. The show opens with a hypothetical showdown between Zenith and Omega for a watch buyer’s hard earned dollars. In order to provide value, complications, and strong brand support to a watch collector on a budget, we compare two complicated steel sports watches for less than $10,000 U.S.: the Zenith (El Primero) Captain Winsor Annual Calendar and the Omega Constellation Globemaster Annual Calendar. Which one offers the best value to watch buyers? Our new polling feature allows actual collectors to join the discussion. New watches will be showcased from top luxury watch brands in Switzerland, Germany, and the Unitred States. Glashutter Original has launched a new flyback chronograph called the Senator Chronograph Capital Edition. This limited edition chronograph from Saxony will be offered in steel (100 pieces) rose gold (25 pieces) and platinum (5 pieces); Glashütte Original caliber 37-01 provides 70 hours of automatically wound power. Crowdfunded Geneva brand Czapek & Cie has launched new version of its Quai des Bergues watch with engine-turned dials from Metelem. Dials in green, grey, red, blue, slate, and Havana brown are cut with traditional guilloche technique and equipment. Steel, rose gold, and titanium Quai des Bergues models are available as part of the new Czapek watch line. Cvstos of Geneva offers a new pirate-themed “Jetliner Pirate Guns” that will be available in aged steel, aged bronze, or blackened steel with rose gold accents. RGM watches of Pennsylvania, USA and its owner, Roland G. Murphy, have launched a new dual time watch called the RGM Model 350 Timezone Big Date. Parmigiani Fleurier has a new calendar watch in the Parmigiani Fleurier Tonda Quator Annual Calendar; it will be available in white gold and rose gold with Parmigiani automatic caliber PF339. Finally, we discuss the luxury watch industry news of the week including the death of Sinn Watches founder Helmut Sinn and the best article written this week among the ranks of luxury watch journalists: “Baume & Mercier Clifton Baumatic 5 Days Watch Hands-On & Why This New Mechanical Movement Matters.” Ariel does justice to the quality and significance of Baume & Mercier’s 2018 Clifton Baumatic 5-Days in chronometer and non-chronometer form. The new watch boasts an exclusive mechanical automatic caliber with a five-day power reserve, anti-magnetic silicon hairspring, low-friction silicon escapement, a five-year service interval, and – for a small premium – a COSC chronometer certification… for $2,500 U.S.



HachiZenki says:

Tungsten is quite common in the firearms industry. The AR, for instance, uses tungsten weights in the buffer system.

Nasri Ozel Photography says:

All good points on the 5711 but have you seen your prices on it right now? You are asking 50k$ for a used one on your site…

Kevin C says:

RGM is very underrated if those dials had PP, Lange or VC on them they would cost 10x the price.

Toño Martnez says:

Tim reminds me of Sheldon Cooper…

Peter Gahan says:

Love the Omega, and I’m a Zenith fanboy.

Matthew Engelson says:

Great show as always Tim & Josh, love the Panerai Josh!

V P says:

In affordable 6000-15000$ range, JLC > IWC > Zenith > Cartier > Omega > TAG

Jake Roth says:

There’s probably nobody who can go toe to toe with Tim on watch knowledge. (also somebody take that water away from Josh)

Dmitry Belyakov says:

luxury horology should be a thing

HachiZenki says:

Hydronaut? Ewww.

Phil Patek says:

“Tim, three letters, all awesome!” I (and many others I’m sure) agree. Best

Ant G. says:

Hey Guys, great show! What happens to the value of previous models if Rolex decides to update the movements on their newest models? For example, 3135 to 3235 and 3186 to ___?

gmshadowtraders says:

Post-Valentines Day shopping, lol

edu danel says:

Hey guys, do a this or that of the Breguet Type XX vs. Omega Moon watch!

Mike M says:

I was visiting Watch Museum in Columbia a couple years ago and stopped by Rgm in Mount Joy.Richard was kind enough to show me Around and their inventory. Great Little shop

Anastasi Economou says:

For me I’d have the Omega but wouldn’t the deville hour vision annual calendar be a better competitor to the zenith with its aperture system?

Ryan M says:

The Omega looks like it has tattoos. For too much text for a dial imo

Simon Holt says:

Thank you for your input Tim, Josh and the WB gang! 🙂 Much appreciated all my distant chums!

Bubba B says:

Good job guys, best show of the week. Numerous watches tonight, the poll was a good add, another great way to have interaction with us along with the live chat. I would like to see Czepek in watch review or in Tuesday Live. Jump on that. 5711 at 41,000? Good gawd!

todd piasecki says:

Carrying on the Sinn tribute:

5 landmark watches related to Mr. Helmut Sinn. Pictures of the 1550 Heuer which Tim mentioned included. Enjoy.

Steven UK1 says:

£20K buys you a lot of watch… new or used including all precious metals and 20K will get you almost anything. The solid white gold Richard Mille RM005 brand new was £20K from Bond Street London in 2004 and still one of the best. The RGM Timezone Big Date is great.

A Wilson says:

I think the Moser Perpetual has a similar month indicator, (at least conceptually). I think the best comparison with the Omega might be the steel SkyDweller.

Jari Norvanto says:

Looks the Omega Globemaster has a Zenith star on the dial… Neither Omega nor Rolex was my cup of tea, but the Globemaster and Sky-Dweller, respectively, sometimes give me second thoughts. The fluted bezel and overall smartness explaines some of it. Not to mention the esthetic qualities of both – of which some is concealed in the tungsten and, respectively, the white gold parts.

Amintas Neto says:

Great show Tim and Josh!!
The new PF annual calendar will be definitively an amazing buy in the secondary market moving forward.


steven togami says:

I have the Omega Globemaster. A gorgeous, face, and movement.
Waiting for the S.S. Zenith Defy 15 hz release. Would buy that!

J S says:

The GO chrono with a plain black dial and blue lume is the one to buy (and yes, I would take it over a ceramic Daytona). These dial colors and blue subdial surrounds are just goofy.

Watch lover in Hawaii says:

Great show. I would pick omega.

Daniel Katz says:

We’ve heard this a million times before , but damn, ill say it too, I dont want to be locked into the obnoxious crowd that know nothing about watches but own a Daytona for wrong reasons, so Josh, pallllleeeeeeeaaase. Reconsider, cheers

Watch Aficionado says:

Zenith wins…

highnrising says:

Tim,The Omega Constellation is a great watch, but the month labels are a bit cluttering and distracting. I’d like to see Omega borrow/steal the H.Moser  minimalist month pointer design for that watch. Then, it would look super-clean and elegant. Is there anything that would stop Omega from doing that? (Could Moser claim a patent for that display feature?)

Anastase Papoortzis says:

Hello guys!! Greetings from the depths of Amazon jungle, city of Boa Vista, State of Roraima, Brazil. My vote is for the Globemaster, the movement, the finishing make it my choice. Already voted on strawpoll!

Phil Patek says:

Josh, I think the AP 15300 would be the perfect watch for you. If no particular Rolex is calling your name, listen for the AP’s seductive, easy voice coming from within, imploring, that it’s there for you and it knows how to satisfy.

TimeKeeper says:

Nice tribute to Helmut Sinn

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